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GreenTrash
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Posted - June 09 2014 :  13:14:22  Show Profile Send GreenTrash a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Rick
Bricklin 40 is up to the people in Saint John to get it together. They were to recruit one or more in the Bricklin community to help organize. There has been no word for almost two months. I have done way more than my share to keep things going but as many of us realized early, without Bricklin International being involved, the Bricklin's 40th Anniversary burden was put on individuals (and to put up all of the cash). Not to be a downer on next week's meet, I thought celebrating the 40th would have been more important than sharing the spotlight with Delorean, apparently I'm not the only one that shares this viewpoint. There is no update regarding the Gray Ghost, hopefully its still a go.
Cheers, Andrew
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bricklin107
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BI President Emeritus

USA
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Posted - June 10 2014 :  00:19:16  Show Profile  Visit bricklin107's Homepage Send bricklin107 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Andrew
Loved your presentation in Canada. But I think this post is a little off base. I want to note that this Bricklin / Delorean meet has been in the works for 2 years. Back then I had no idea on the 40th Anniversary Canada meet. When I heard about it I was all for people going. I want people to enjoy and support Brickln meets everywhere! I also want to point out that someone needed to come forward and push and organize the New Brunswick meet. No one did. So I don't understand why that it is Bricklin Internationals fault? Any member could have posted and promoted the meet. But no one took charge. Why does Bricklin International have to find someone? We need more support! There are only a handful of members that do the lions share of the work. I would have loved to attend but It is very far and I simply could not get away. There are very few leaders in the club. I think at this upcoming meet folks will hear about leadership opportunities at BI. Volunteer and help the club! Get involved and help the club navigate into the future. So if you have negative feelings as Andrew noted, Volunteer and help the club out and lead us into new frontiers. Don't sit on the sidelines and be negative.
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GreenTrash
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Posted - June 10 2014 :  08:01:14  Show Profile Send GreenTrash a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have no animosity towards the Bricklin / Delorean event in itself but as a matter of sequential numbers, the 40th was going to be the 40th all the way along. As you all must know, the club is as good as the sum of its members not just what some of the members contribute. As sad as this may sound, employees of Bricklin are getting up in years and I highly doubt many of them will be around for the 50th Anniversary. Some may know that I have a degree of animosity regarding Bricklin International's lack of involvement saving the Gray Ghost and this is justified. Bricklin International was founded to promote the virtues and heritage of the SV-1. I have contributed in my way to making sure the car and what the guys did is not forgotten. I will say that there is one member of B.I. that has stepped up to the plate regarding the Gray Ghost and that is Terry Tanner. I would suggest that the club discuss this matter with Terry in Dayton so that the legwork I have already done isn't wasted. However, at the end of the day this is your club, not mine.
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Rick_R
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Posted - June 10 2014 :  11:11:09  Show Profile Send Rick_R a Private Message  Reply with Quote
no problem Andrew, it had appeared you had taken the lead, I guess not, I will see what can be worked out in dayton to salvage some of this.

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Gulwings
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Posted - June 10 2014 :  12:27:27  Show Profile Send Gulwings a Private Message  Reply with Quote
... just my 2 cents here...

Why should a 40th Anniversary of a notable time in NB history be driven and funded from Ontario?
Why should Ontario owners of Bricklins spend thousands of dollars to transport their cars to NB for a 'party' enjoyed by Saint John and yet; not sanctioned beyond a parking spot on the boardwalk to encourage visitors and revenue for local businesses that aren't "actually" 'participating' beyond selling what they normally do?
I spent (as did quite a few others) a lot of time to try to attract the attention of the Saint John Tourism group in order to make this something that many like Andrew: have a love hate relationship with and "bring them back" to a passionate time in their lives, good or bad.
I was totally dismayed by the lack of interest from the folks down there and realistically: the largest population of Canadian Bricklins is from Quebec City eastward to the coast and all around the area.
I had a lot of good feelings and kudos from the folks down there but nobody wanted to really get it together.
I committed revenue to Andrew last year in London, to get the Grey Ghost home... if he needs it; that still stands with me.
I think it's really great that the club here has sanctioned a joint meet in Dayton with DeLoreans... having said that; I think it's better that this will be their "last meet" so we can concentrate selfishly on Bricklins from here on. If we need a movie car; I know a guy that owns one.

Chopstick





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GreenTrash
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Posted - June 10 2014 :  16:02:45  Show Profile Send GreenTrash a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Chopstick
I totally agree with your take on the Saint John people thus far but there is one crucial part that all practical thinking people must admit to. Without official sanctioning, participation and support by the one and only Bricklin club to celebrate the 40th Anniversary it was going to be difficult and expensive for those wishing to celebrate. The New Brunswick Museum has been another frustrating experience and would have been a whole lot easier if the club or a key member took possession of the Gray Ghost to assure its safety. Realistically, when I found the car I knew I had to do my part to assure its safety, it didn't mean that the whole burden was mine. I still have to keep faith with the museum as they have indicated this will happen soon. At this point though, I would not have any animosity towards the owner of the Ghost if he disposed of it to get his wife off his back. Most of you surely could empathize with his situation. To clarify on the love/hate thing you mention, I have always loved and still love the SV-1, I'm just not a fan of the man (I haven't thought or mentioned that for a year).
Cheers, Andrew
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brick75
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Posted - June 10 2014 :  17:40:21  Show Profile Send brick75 a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Just my 2 cents, we here in Ontario put a fair bit of thought and effort into Saint John NB but with shipping costs in the thousands, we need local business support, it would have been a revenue maker for the city but there was no support.

I applaude Andrew for his film and especially for the effort on the Grey Ghost.

I also applaude Jim W for organizing Dayton, I for one would be there but I had previously booked travel plans.

We are a small Club and need to work together.

Marty
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Rick_R
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Canada
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Posted - June 11 2014 :  14:56:34  Show Profile Send Rick_R a Private Message  Reply with Quote
IF there is an issue with the museum let me know, locally there is the canadian transportation museum and I am sure they would issue the appropriate tax receipt and make room the grey ghost www.ctmhv.com

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